To: evereverafter and flattballer

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Well, Well, I really do love a good challenge Evereverafter. To be honest with you, you stated that someone by the username of "michelle83" said that because of the beliefs in your religion that you are going to Heaven. Now I have no idea what religion you truly are, but I did pray to "The Lord" to ask for some wisdom and forgiveness and HE spoke to my heart/spirit and this is what I have determined, you are probably "Jewish" and practice Judaism. If this is true then you are 100% correct, all Jews will be in God's Kingdom on Earth after the 2nd coming and not because you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and in fact GOD-HIMSELF called the Holy Trinity, all Jews are exempt from this, it is by "Birth Right", if your mother was Jewish then all of her children are Jewish as well and I am guessing you were born a Jew and did not convert. Also I have also done some praying to "Our Lord" to give me guidance about being a little less harsh and I will do so and if you notice my original post I have deleted the harshest parts, but I still believe our words having power to them especially when it comes to music, music has a very powerful effect on people, more then most people realize. One more thing and this I truly believe: all true Christians and true Jews are going to be in God's Kingdom on earth after the 2nd coming happens. No other religions or atheists/agnostics will be included, that is why HE wants us to spread the Gospel because this is the only way for the "Gentile" to be included in "God's perfect Kingdom on earth" This is the whole reason for "The Gospel" Now I have personally prayed to The Lord, about the others who are not included in "The Kingdom" that they not go to Hell, myself and millions of Pastors have been praying this for sometime now, we hope all HE does is "vanish/vanquish" them with no pain involved, Hell should be reserved only for "satan" and his demons and thats it.. I guess we will see what HE decides...This would show the non-believer true compassion and love on behalf of Almighty God.....
Also you are wrong about me when you said that I believe all these things:
I am pro-choice, because the Human Spirit that God creates in all Human beings is not created until the 7 month of pregnancy, so before that, it is not a life, the spirit gives life, it is merely a living organism or vessel and thats it. thats why in most nations you cannot get an abortion that far ahead, its usually between 1-3 months of pregnancy.
George W Bush fan: I am not a Bush fan, I voted for Gore, and now I am voting for Hillary if she gets the nom.
pro iraqi war: I disagree with the invasion of Iraq, but I was for the invasion of Afghanistan.
anti planed parenthood: I am all for this, contraception is a very good thing, you are confusing me with "Catholic Doctrine"
anti gays: this one you are right, I am, because it is an "abomination" to Our Lord, men are suppose to be with women, not the other way around, this is one of "satan's deceptions, read the Bible, it's even in the old testament which if you are a Jew you have read it, why do you think The Lord destroyed "Sodom and Gomorra"?? sexual immorality (loveless casual sex) and homosexuality-lesbian...
red state staunch republican: wrong I am a Conservative Democrat.
no tolerance for differing lifestyles: do not know which one you are referring to, if you are talking about gay and lesbian lifestyle, then I already answered this one...
you said I agree with no sex before marriage, this one I have a bit of a disagreement with Our Lord and because I have "free will" to do so, I am against "Loveless" sex, which is casual sex-friends- with benefits, one night stands, etc... I believe in having loving sex (making love)and being in love and then going to the next step and marrying that person, so that The Lord will sanctify and bless your relationship because if you do not, then HE will not bless it and you will not be with that same person when "The Kingdom Comes" HE will have you meet someone else and you won't remember the other one.
you said I think masturbation is a sin: The act is not a sin, but lusting of your heart/mind for sex with someone you are not "in-love" with is a sin, but this is very forgivable an un-limited amount of times, HE understands that our Human bodies have this need for affection and intimacy. Now if you are lusting/masturbating for someone that your in-love with in a committed faithful relationship or married to, this is okay with The Lord, I believe. you said I am against interracial marriage: NOT TRUE AND COMPLETELY FALSE, true love is blind when it comes to skin color or race.....take care and May God Bless you..
To: flattballer, I am sorry for what I said, I have no idea what your faith is, and I have asked for forgiveness to "Our Lord" for this, I was very wrong, I just got carried away... I will not be harsh again on my posts, but I am still very passionate about the words people choose to use in their songs, music is very powerful when it comes to our human spirits and I truly care about people like Carrie who is "Goodhearted" and lives the right way I and many others worry about people like this in the public eye who claim to be Christians.

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Yeah I give you credit for that too. I agree with you about how music can send powerful messages and such and I am happy you said that. I think you are a good person and it is good you feel strong in what you beleive in but you do kind of come off offensive now and then.

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well Pastorman-i give you credit. you are indeed a man and admited where you were wrong, prayed for forgiveness and deleted parts. i give you a lot of credit and thanks for that. that was my only beef with you. you are right, words do mean a lot and realize/understand that when you post your beleifs or ideologies on a carrie underwood discussion board, you must tread lightly as you can come off sounding like you are talking down to people and alienate those who dont see things the way you do. the difference i beleive is that you want all to think the way you do to be saved and go to gods kingdom while i am all for diversity. for example i am heterosexual, but i dont subscribe to all of the bibles tenats and if someone wants to be gay say go for it. it doesnt affect my life and hurts noone. there needs to be more room for grey in this world, not only black and white. i dont care what the bible says. i lead a good life and am an independant thinker-i help others and contribute to society. that IMO is all that god is looking for.
but i digress-we will agree to disagree and thank you again for being a man and seeing where you might have gone off track. i too will soften up on my responses. but remember please that everytime you post a religous post on this board you are alienating some people who dont see things as you do. your job to convert the "non-beleivers" is similar to the tenents of Scientoloy or jehovah witnesses who beleive in converting and saving non believers. lastly, my point that carrie is a christian who sings, not a "christian singer" if you are in the music industry, you know there are christian rock groups who sing about the lord. that is not carrie. there are quite a few people who consider themselves christians that dont sing only about god and religon and sing about contrversial topics or have contreversy that is unchristian like in their own live. I love sara evans, she had an extramarital affair; brad paisley sings about drinking and suicide in whiskey lullaby. so carrie isnt the only one. she is young and having fun. let her enjoy her fame

thanks again for your post
and god bless you